Her uh ex-boyfriend is joel madden from good charlotte right yeah so rock star i mean he was older he was a lot older going to the trailer and he’s sitting there and he’s like hmm i’m liking that like that i’m just like a little creepy who is this guy that’s the thing i’m wondering how old is this guy so we had to make out in front of our director um in his trailer but what about paris hilton is it true we read here in the uk that she shoved you on a red carpet is there any truth [music] hey i’m joel i’m hillary and you’re
Watching people.com you’re 18. Yeah you’ve been with joel brownlow um probably two years he’ll tell me if like i did something too crazy you decided to bet on her yeah i bet on her yeah exactly and i won hillary duff right after she got out of bed with joel madden no we heard about joel and hillary duff he’s a 17 you’re 25 that is disgusting and illegal [music] million [music] like [music] [applause] [music] hi i’m shelby and i’m jake welcome to
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49 you can keep all of your devices safe and stream any show from anywhere in the world 2007 represents a complete shift in american pop culture the 90s were lingering but the 2000s were on the upswing the year prior was pretty insignificant but 2007 was all about innovation and pushing forward european electronic music was blasting at every club paris lindsay and brittany were being exploited in every grocery store checkout line and photos were being captured that were going to be remembered till the end of time even
Though 2007 was a culture defining year behind the lights and flashing cameras are stories of superficial friendships stolen boyfriends and sabotaged pop careers that didn’t make it into the news behind the scenes the girls were fighting tooth and nail to sustain their spot on the social totem pole and they were beginning to fall off one by one it all started in the year 2004 with 16 year old disney channel star turned pop sensation hillary duff being a celebrity meant something entirely different in 2004 than it does today back then there
Was a separation between the public and celebrities the only thing we saw were official programs released on tv music videos or pictures through the lens of a paparazzi this created a strong partition of separation between celebrities and their fans as the tabloids chronicle celebrities were falling out of touch with what people wanted and relate to but not hillary duff she’s been described as the world’s most powerful teenager but she acts just like the girl next door so what is it that’s attracting hillary
Duff to her legion of followers i don’t know it’s kind of a weird question you know to answer about yourself but um i know with the tv show that um you know everybody really likes lizzie mcguire because she’s very people can relate to her and they’ve gone through the exact same experiences of you know trying to fit in at school and trying to find out who you are and that kind of like adolescence beginning to be a teenager kind of thing and being embarrassed by your parents and having an annoying little brother
And stuff like that she represented the everyday girl and kids really connected with that not only did she have a boardroom of disney executives curating her every move to relate to kids her age but she also didn’t flaunt an unattainable lifestyle this approach proved to be a massive success and hillary duff was rocketed off to heights the children entertainment world had never seen before hillary duff is really poisoned herself to take over this entire tween market that used to be dominated by the olsen twins maybe
They’re ready for something different and hillary stole the olsens market share by grabbing their business guru in 2004 she hired robert thorne the former puppet master behind the olsen twins billion dollar dual star entertainment group hillary duff’s manager robert thorne actually did a really smart thing by taking the business model that he used to popularize the olsen twins and basically applying it directly to hillary duff these odds behind the curtain if you look at hillary pre-robert thorne she was big she was making a couple millions
Of dollars out there but you want to know what with him by her side she’s making tens of millions this could be the next billion dollar tween empire already she sold three million records and had a number one album i’ve been seeing on the top downloads top album awesome thank you quite literally a one-person entertainment dynamo the hottest keen star in the business is hillary [music] hillary duff is cornering that special little tween market and is making a fortune [music] as the final episodes of lizzie mcguire
Were airing hillary was at a crossroads in her career she was doing more movies like raise your voice and a cinderella story but was also leaning into her pop startup releasing one of the most prolific albums of her career self-titled her disney days were clearly numbered due to disney’s four-season cycle but also due to her new image and she was working harder than ever before now if you’ve watched our series the disney channel machine then you know disney channel is known to place extremely unrealistic expectations on
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The children they employ from the intense media training they are put through at young impressionable ages to the overly happy persona they are forced to put on in the face of predatory adults disney channel stars have always strived to be the pinnacle of what parents believe a child’s role model should be and hillary duff wasn’t just an example of this she was the blueprint and you’re 16 and in like um let’s say three months except in september how many days more than that actually i had a cat i was counting down
A couple i know you were every one of us did that i bet it’s like 160 days now 160 days i’m such a joke i can’t believe i’m counting down okay and then often the stars you know there’s a lot of gossip about who the stars uh go to the premiere with yeah yeah so who’d you go with um i went with a bunch of my friends actually yeah and who else there’s a picture of it yeah you didn’t think i was gonna do this without a picture did you yeah i went with aaron carter i see yeah and and you can either answer my question or do
A pratfall [music] oh we’re really good friends actually um it’s great and we went to the premiere together how good we’re really good friends are you uh are you an item um i don’t know you have to ask him no i’m asking you he’s not here what do you like to know well i would that’s why i’m asking i wouldn’t ask otherwise and about 25 people over there you know it’s really hard because we’re always out of town we’re always working but he’s really nice so he’s gonna dig and dig well you’re blushing a little bit so that that answers the question
All right well big star and good luck with the movie thank you the lizzie mcguire movie i should mention produced by our parent company disney thanks for being here nice to meet you thanks for having me how good a friend she joins us in the studio this morning with some fans we brought along i don’t know if you knew that here they are they can’t get enough of you you guys say hi from camera let’s just say hi to the camera guys you guys are on my camera right now there you go how are you doing i’m doing great how
About you i’m fine congratulations on you know the fact that 31 million people watch your show on disney channel that you get 375 000 emails a day and now you’re going to do singing as well yeah aren’t you just happy with making hit movies it’s so cool i love i love um singing too it’s like you know it’s so different from making movies and i love the whole thing it’s great whether it was to line her parents pockets or further her own career there was no doubt that hilary duff deeply cared about her reputation hillary duff’s mom
Susan was hell-bent on making her daughter a star when she took on the momager role hillary duff is a prime example of the mom moved out to california had to leave the dad behind and really dedicated herself 100 percent to making a career for hillary susan is sort of the ultimate stage mom at this point in hollywood she is very demanding it makes me sad sometimes to see articles come out like they’ll say something like she’s running her career well i’m 15 who’s supposed to run my career any normal teenage mistake
Would be magnified to the utmost extent and may even affect her and her parents income following the first lizzie mcguire movie susan duff made outrageous demands she wanted cell phones she wanted a producer credit she wanted a back-end deal for hillary they were negotiating for the sequel and she was asking for everything under the moon and finally the studios just said forget it we’re not going to work with you and the sequel never happened i was a little shocked i really loved doing the character lisa mcguire susan’s
Hard-nosed tactics also ended up scuttling her daughter’s chances to get the role in confessions of teenage drama queen which went to her arch rival 3011. When she began coming for her fellow disney pop girls next her audience was shocked to say the least it was a perfect opportunity for magazines and the news to write exploitative headlines about a young girl and cash in oh and not to mention it all began with fellow disney actress and the star of parent trap lindsay lohan hilary duff was deep in her relationship with fellow teen pop
Star aaron carter due to aaron’s appearance on lizzie mcguire in a proximity to the backstreet boys and hillary duff’s mega celebrity status and airtight brand they were the names in everyone’s mouth hillary was the disney golden child she was after all the beginning of the first wave of new generation disney channel stars this still didn’t stop aaron carter from dumping her only to publicly get with lindsay lohan however this was short-lived and aaron dumped lindsay and got back together with hillary think very regular mundane teenage drama at
The highest stakes possible thus lindsey and hillary knew what needed to be done to remedy the entire situation with eric the only option was to begin showing up to each other’s movie premieres to steal the spotlight on the red carpet [music] lindsay loves aaron carter hillary loves aaron carter at the same time hey aaron you may want to get out of the way because you’re in the middle of outrageous celebrity feud number 29 lindsay lohan versus hillary duff lindsay lohan and hillary duff are having a very serious serious fight i
Mean these are two very serious artists they’re both very talented one of them looks like a horse and i’m just kidding what’s their feud about lindsay had first dibs she briefly dated aaron in 2002 but according to reports lohan found out aaron was also seeing hillary why would anybody fight over one of the carters is my real question that’s like fighting over one of the backstreet boys or one of the 98 degrees lindsay broke up with carter but hillary didn’t stick with him for long a short time later hillary attended the premiere
Of lindsay’s movie freaky friday lindsay retaliated by showing up at a party for hillary’s movie cheaper by the dozen i love how they like get get back at each other by showing up at each other’s red carpet events you know with one of their ex-boyfriends according to the san francisco observer after hillary went to the freaky friday premiere lindsay wanted to retaliate at hillary by showing up at the cheaper by the dozen premiere and so hilary duff’s mom reportedly tried to have hillary’s rival lindsay lohan 86th from the cheaper by
The dozen premier after-party the two young actresses have always hated each other ever since they found out they were both being played by the same guy pop runs aaron carter an eyewitness told the new york post that hillary flipped when lindsay showed up at the party on sunday night and told her mom to make lindsay disappear susan duff hillary’s mom instructed hillary’s bodyguard to throw lindsay out when lohan resisted hillary and susan grabbed a fox exec who just happened to be walking by and insisted he show lins the door but the
Fox exec refused to pander to the childish demands of a 17 year old diva and her overbearing mom he told the duffs lindsay was invited if you are not happy you can leave the feud accelerated in 2004 hillary was co-starring in a cinderella story with chad michael murray now this is where the story gets majorly problematic and predatory chad michael murray a 22 year old actor played lindsay lohan’s love interest in freaky friday while she was only 17 years old he also played hilary duff’s love interest in a cinderella story when
He was 22 and she was only 15. You caused a huge controversy which is at the freaky friday movie that you’re in premiere and you were in this movie with lindsay lohan at the time lindsay lohan having a feud with hillary duff you bring hillary duff as your date to the premiere pandemonium breaks out it was just it was like a riot at the tokyo stock exchange things went crazy i’m not up to date yeah i didn’t know oh you knew didn’t you know i’m 58 years old and i knew that you can’t bring hillary duff to a lindsay lohan premiere
You can’t do it ladies you can’t do it yeah i mean i have no excuse man so you did it and what happened i mean first of all a lot of people guys would probably dream about being between a cat fight with those two you know was there actually were people throwing were they throwing things at each other was there anger was there we had to get comfortable for a kissing scene so i took her out who’s we which hillary and i we were doing cinderella story right and freaky friday’s premiering so i had to get comfortable and you know we didn’t know
Anything about each other we just started and so i took her to the premiere you know we’re hanging out having friends you know doing the thing and right next thing you know i found out that they’re you know terrible enemies and i get a lot of angry handshakes and smiles my way what’s an angry handshake i’m curious is that when they you squeeze they squeeze really hard i’ve tried to do that to people but i’m so weak that no one knows i’m doing it i’m like yeah nice to meet you too and the little girl is like yeah nice to
Meet you those 14 year olds they got a grip yeah they do i know well i got a free story for you tell me um so i i mean i never met hillary and so we like prior to i decided to take her out to coffee a few times and just get to know her um prior to shooting the movie but one of the first things we shot was like this big big intense kissing scene the scene the climactic point of the movie and um well i thought i was in trouble um the big the big climactic part of the movie and so our director wanted us to be comfortable kissing
I was like oh he’s like come in my trailer and um he brings us in the trailer and he goes okay guys so i want you to be really comfortable kissing so go come on well he’s like yeah i want you to make out right now well if you didn’t give us like 10 minutes because that’s just weird and so he leaves and we’re like okay hey how are you chad hillary pleasure to meet you love your work you’re doing great congratulations sweetheart anyway finally he comes back 10 minutes and we have to kiss and he’s just like that was great
Great and so that was pretty much my story so we had to make out in front of our director in his trailer yesterday on the show we had mr chad michael murray on the program and he was talking about how he had a a uh kissing scene with you in in cinderella’s story and that you guys he just he never got specific but he said there was a little trouble with the kissing team you guys had to work on it and i thought well i know nothing about the movie business how does that even work well what happened was like we had been working together for three
Days it was like the very beginning shoot of the movie we didn’t meet each other and you just start to work with each other and we have like this really big kissing scene and it’s in front of like a bleacher full of like 300 people a crew everything and it’s like really specific because it’s like supposed to rain and everything and there’s all these problems and the director wasn’t happy and so he’s like well let’s go into the trailer and practice the director says i’m like um okay be going to the trailer and he’s sitting
There and he’s like hmm hmm i’m liking that like that was just like a little creepy and a little bit who is this guy that’s the thing i’m wondering how old is this guy i’m not sure he’s a really really nice guy but i’m sure he’s a really nice guy oh i want to see you two teenagers cheers what would you have done if at some point the real director came in was like who’s this guy get out of here i’ll be back and ran away from here it only goes downhill as according to lindsay even called chad to spread rumors about hillary according to
Hillary lindsay called chad and said awful things about her sure lindsay did say some things about hillary that may or may not be true but who knows maybe hillary did sell human organs on the central american black market maybe she didn’t hillary told the press she was hurt but ready to make up however soon hillary and lindsay would reach a major boiling point and it didn’t have to do with adult actors or aaron carter it had to do with lindsay’s controversial episode of saturday night live of course you might also know me from the pages of us
Weekly as the girl who’s always fighting with hillary duff yep that’s me too but hillary and i are not mad at each other we were in a fight because we both dated the same guy and the whole thing was very high school but we’re both over it now and to prove it i invited hillary duff to be here with me tonight so come on out hillary [applause] you thank you very much i can’t believe i’m here hosting saturday night live um okay anyway i’m glad we’re clearing things up i agree lindsay our whole feud is so yesterday hillary i just wanted to say right to
Your face that if i ever did anything to hurt your feelings then i’m sorry and i apologize oh thanks lindsay and if i ever sent out a mass email to everyone at the disney corporation saying that you’re addicted to laxatives and that your hair is a weave then i’m sorry too oh wait a minute you did what i’m so glad we made up i’m sorry lindsay it’s okay i’m sorry you had to see that and uh happy birthday in advance i know from a website that i frequent you turn 18 and 63 days and 25 minutes thanks oh man hey uh when do you turn 18
Never oh my god this is going to get me into more trouble and more trouble it was as after saturday night live aired hilary duff had more to say it’s made duff a prime target for fellow teen titan lindsay lohan now the girls dish on the field when i heard that lindsay was gonna be on saturday night live i knew she was gonna make fun of me you might also know me from the pages of us weekly as the girl who’s always fighting with hillary duff i wasn’t honored i don’t think it’s an honor to be made fun of on saturday
Night live our whole feud is so yesterday so so yesterday we didn’t do anything derogatory towards her i’m not here to talk bad about her like she talks bad about me all the time and um i just knew that it was gonna happen i’m sorry if she felt offended but i thought things were cool so i hillary i don’t want to start anything again hopefully now it’s done hilary duff is tough enough to roll with the punches and punch lines and listen there’s someone else i’ve been feuding with because i said she didn’t respect her fans avraham
The first crack in hillary’s disney channel armor was showing and the next girl to attack was pop rock icon avril lavigne avro represented the antithesis of hillary duff she was rough around the edges and confrontational whereas hillary was sort of the goody two shoes disney girl both were such big stars a feud was bound to happen and when it did it centered around their fans avril spoke out and dissed the people who take inspiration from her style telling people who dress like her to quote get a life hillary’s fans were younger and her
Team’s plan for her relied heavily on her fans wanting to emulate her style and fashion needless to say hillary called avril out publicly for the entire world to see it totally me up it’s not her place to tell me or try to say how i should treat my fans she was given a quote that was false that i didn’t even say something like i didn’t i don’t like that people dress like me that’s not true at all avril continued on her tirade against hillary saying she’s such a goody goody and such a mama’s girl and according to newsweek when asked if
She’s ever met hillary she sunk down into the couch and mumbled no then in a mocking sugar-coated voice said but i’m sure she’s really nice and really sweet i’m sure she’s all smiles but a week later things got even more tense as avril continued on to a radio show to combat hillary according to the daily dish avril told hillary to go screw herself saying i’m like who are you to talk about me you should know better don’t talk trash with me this magazine even alleges that avril then proceeded to destroy a picture of herself cause
She quote didn’t like it so jump two years into the future and things start to get confusing according to hillarydef news and pictures dot com hillary and avril were hanging out at hollywood club lax so that’s why they were in the same place at the same time the fans guess they still hate each other hillary eventually addressed this long-standing feud to people magazine in 2008 saying i said something about how she didn’t like her fans dressing like her and how she should appreciate that because it’s a compliment she called me a goody goody
Everyone is trying to prove who they are and their positions so i’m the good girl she’s the bad girl or the party girl sarah jessica parker doesn’t take her clothes off but she’s not a good girl adult actors don’t get tagged like we do in response duff swung back through a spokesperson who said quote hillary’s remark was blown out of proportion and she is sorry for that although she has never met avril lavigne she is a big fan of her music so who do you want to see slimed um hilary duff hillary duff i hope i don’t get slime
Our correspondent laura mayhew found there just might be some truth to avril’s feud with hillary duff it all started when hillary said that avril needs to appreciate her fans more i didn’t like what she said it was another business right and she has no place in she’s she can’t say anything hillary’s career was really heating up now as all the tabloid headlines and drama was contributing to her success and icon status however behind the scenes a real feud was beginning to brew she didn’t know it yet but the entire scene was
About to blow up around the closest person in hillary’s life and ruin her very own sister’s chances of being a pop star forever [music] due to hillary being one of the biggest child stars of all time her sister haley duff began to garner some minor notoriety she started taking small acting roles including boston public chicago hope and nickelodeon’s amanda show starring amanda bynes however during the beginning of her career hillary began the metamorphosis no pun intended of actor into pop icon so on paper it only made sense for her sister
To venture down a similar path however that path would be filled with stolen songs lawsuits and the biggest roadblock of all paris hilton the year 2004 was in full swing and haley duff was busy she had made an on-screen appearance in napoleon dynamite and had just released the cover of our lips are sealed with her sister hillary haley was now preparing for her solo pop debut and she had the perfect single called screwed what haley didn’t know was that this title would prove to be more accurate than she thought as she
Was about to be royally screwed over by the heir to the hilton throne herself paris hilton had also been working on her first ever studio album and her debut single was set to be released around the same time as halley’s little did they both know they recorded the exact same song titled screwed to debut their music careers at the time it was even the title to paris’s debut album now debut singles are very important to the longevity of a signed artist especially to pop artists like haley in paris as they both had pre-existing
Audiences before venturing into the pop world this would be the world’s first impression of their music and they both wanted it to be perfect paris started talking up the song and interviews telling the las vegas review journal it’s about a girl who gets screwed over by a guy but once haley realized they were releasing the same song she did everything in her power to block paris from releasing it haley duff told usa today quote paris has talked to the people who wrote the song and i think it’s all under control now however that
Couldn’t be further from the truth paris was not going to let haley get the last word in august 2004 right before haley was set to release her debut single paris demo of the song screwed would mysteriously leak to a radio station radio on the jojo kid show it’s paris hilton with a song called skaroo hey they should put this underneath her video paris’s spoke person is quoted saying it’s not something we put out it’s a leak and that’s really disturbing hilton doesn’t have a release date for her album yet or even a distribution deal in
Place so the release is too early to promote the record everyone was hearing paris version first and getting the first taste of what they could expect from paris first pop album rumors began flying some even suggesting that paris had filmed a video for the song with david le chappelle but haley wasn’t giving up quite yet according to an mtv news article at the time despite the leak of paris hilton’s version of the song screwed hayley duff is plowing ahead with her plan to include her version of the song on her own upcoming
Debut album since haley is the one who procured the first rites to record and release the song from both of the songwriters and from both of the girls publisher hollywood records however the damage had already been done haley’s debut was effectively ruined this leak would not only stop haley from releasing her version of screwed but it also put a complete halt to her album entirely and effectively killed her career in pop this allegedly sparked legal troubles behind the scenes and was one of the reasons why paris had to delay her album
For two years when paris’s album finally came out self-titled paris scrood was featured prominently but it wasn’t the same screwed that leaked on the orlando radio station years prior leading many to believe that she needed to switch it up completely to be able to use the song some even speculated that haley had a writing credit on the song thus forcing paris to completely redo the song from the ground up let me ask you about how this all started because i mean it was a couple years ago i guess that we first
Heard that a record was in the works at least a record in some form and i believe wasn’t it screwed was the demo that you’d first brought to the label is that right so was that the first song you worked on screwed is the first song i recorded and that’s still in the album i completely redid it and it’s totally different than how i first did it but um in the beginning i was doing a whole rock album and with rob cavallo with rob cavallo who’s an amazing producer but then i don’t know i just it wasn’t my thing i didn’t you know i i liked the rock music
But i was more like the club music so when i met with scott i just threw all those songs away and started fresh and came up with the whole new sound and it’s just more me this record we may never know what haley duff’s version of screwed sounded like but shots were fired from paris’s end and their years-long feud was only getting started [music] nicole ritchie and paris hilton simple life empire only continued to grow and paris hilton had fired one of the first shots however hillary and haley wouldn’t take this lying down as haley was
Sifting through the shattered remains of what her pop career could have been her and her sister were plotting their next move against paris according to people magazine hillary and haley duff were teaming up to channel their inner hilton sister by starring in a movie called material girls material girls was about two wealthy sisters who are both heiresses to their family’s cosmetics fortune they are given a wake-up call when a scandal an ensuing investigation strips them of their wealth thus giving the movie kind of a
Green acres now the simple life type feel it’s quite funny it’s just about two sisters that have a lot of money and they kind of don’t take life too seriously because they have no no troubles and they end up something goes wrong with their company that they inherited and they kind of lose everything and so it’s kind of riches to rags and and how they deal with it now filming was set to begin in 2005 causing hayley and hillary to embark on a press tour this press tour would only add fuel to paris and hayley’s pre-existing feud that was
Started only months prior and the questions from the press tour would rope hillary duff into the feud as well as when she was asked in interviews if the movie was based on paris hilton hillary wouldn’t deny it do you identify with your characters are you the wild one in real life or how did you decide who was gonna play who she is she’s very we didn’t have to decide we read the script and then we just we knew like she’s ava i’m tansy it worked out perfectly and we don’t really relate with them in real life because we have
Totally different personalities but i kind of am the more responsible one and haley it’s like our relationship but it’s exaggerated yeah well i mean like we’re we’re so close in our life we’re best friends but definitely the characters that we have to play in this movie are they’re just a little more like over over the top than we are but it’s funny watching these girls that have not really respected anything in their life or never had to work for anything so they don’t appreciate it watching them go through life and deal
With everyday problems that people deal with on a daily basis but watching them do it is kind of a catastrophe they’ve got a new movie out called material girls so what’s it about it’s fun it’s about two girls that are very wealthy they’ve just kind of bumbled through life and don’t really have many many real challenges to deal with has it got anything to do with these two maybe a little bit you you’ve worked hard for your fame and what you have what do you feel about people like those fame hungry tarts [applause]
How do you really feel about them well i looked more strongly actually but i took it down for the lawyers that’s very nice um i don’t know it is hard to see someone that doesn’t work as hard that gets rewarded in the same sort of way and then doesn’t really appreciate it do you agree with me i do i said it much more yeah correct than you you do definitely hungry yeah the feud between paris and the duff sisters was about to reach a major boiling point as around the time of filming for material girls it was reported that paris hilton had shoved
Hillary duff at a red carpet event you’re such a lovely person hillary the times i’ve met you will strike me as being very sweet and loving and caring and blonde and young and rich uh anyway um so i was surprised to hear that you’ve got some beef going on in your world no you’re not gonna ask me with kelly clarkson do you have is that both of you and kelly clarkson no i love her music no she’s really nice what about paris hilton is it true we read here in the uk that she shoved you on a red carpet is there any truth in
This i know i’ve had enough of feuds and i’m just keeping my mouth shut but you guys can assume what you want however you view her maybe she did maybe she didn’t i was gonna say for what it’s worth you know you’re amongst friends here i thought she was the most boring human being i’d ever had in his privilege of interviewing now this wouldn’t be the end of the hillary and hayley versus paris hilton feud as later in the video we are going to get into how this caused a chain reaction and would blow up in a way no
One was expecting now let’s rewind back to the year 2004. At just 16 years old hillary duff was at the height of her career and despite some teen feuds along the way she had managed to keep her reputation spotless so when rumors emerged that hilary duff was spotted on a date kissing 25 year old good charlotte lead singer joel madden the public was completely shocked now you would think the public surprise would come from the age difference considering hillary was a minor and joel was in his mid-20s but back in 2004 the
Public seemed more concerned that joel a quote tattooed bad boy was outside of hillary’s good girl branding despite multiple spottings of the unlikely couple kissing and paparazzi photos of them spending time together both hillary and joel would continuously deny their relationship to the media stating that they were just friends there are boyfriends possibly there’s not a boyfriend right now i mean i’ve had boyfriends before yeah well you’re just 16.
you had him when you were 15. Well didn’t you have a girlfriend when you were 16. Hell no was there any i mean 16 year olds have boyfriends or girlfriends whatever not in england no they just started things like you know drinking at 16. Oh yes you just be careful while you’re here yeah but um i don’t have one right now i’m like i’m really focused on my career and i don’t want to date anybody in the business and then oh you don’t know is this going to be difficult for you then isn’t it because if everyone you meet you’re going to think are they just
Like because i’m hilary duff the pop star but i don’t meet too many people because i don’t go to regular school so i don’t meet like normal guys we’re actually at the nba hillary duff performed as well that night and now there’s a lot of i don’t know if they’re rumors going around or not well he’s a good friend of mine we hang out when we’re in the same town and i guess people saw us hanging out and they wanted to start rooms but it’s all good we’re friends thought it was odd that you came all the way up to toronto just to be part of the
Mbas you know taking taking some time away from the recording and stuff like that yeah uh but mutts really convinced me to do it have you heard about joel and hillary duff are you serious i’m nine years old isn’t her perfect 17 you’re 25 that is disgusting and illegal with hillary being two years away from the legal age of consent in california publicly denying their relationship was more than likely to protect joel from getting into legal trouble according to mtv news joel a full-grown adult would even get in the middle of
Hillary’s ongoing teen feud with lindsay lohan all the feuding teen girls from hillary to lindsay and avril attended the 2004 z100 jingle ball hillary and joel were backstage as both were performing that night lindsay lohan’s then eight-year-old little brother cody and some friends approached joel as huge good charlotte fans cody proceeded to ask joel for an autograph but hillary allegedly told joel that cody was lindsay’s little brother according to witnesses joel demanded cody get his mother dina lohan dina was described as
Outraged when joel demanded her daughter lindsay apologize for her actions against hillary this backstage argument brought good charlotte fan cody to tears where he ended up yelling at joel that the simple plan guys are probably nicer and started chanting simple plan as he and his friends ran off aside from the media reporting that joel a grown man in his mid-20s had engaged in some teen drama hillary and joel were able to keep their relationship completely out of the media for almost two years it wasn’t until one to two
Months before hillary’s 18th birthday at the 2005 vmas where hillary and joel would walk on stage hand in hand confirming the almost two years long relationship speculation my boyfriend joel here has introduced me to a lot of music that i’ve never listened to before that i absolutely love like um morrissey branson afi the murderers i always get that wrong it’s okay hey live from hotel victor at miami it’s the killers you’re 18 yeah you’ve been with joel for how long um probably two years i’d tell you if i were to look at the two of you
Separately on paper i wouldn’t have ever made that connection don’t you think that’s a little small-minded yeah i mean look at you it just goes to show that like the whole world i’m sure says that or has said that wouldn’t you understand how people would read a magazine they’d see you they’d see him they go their opposite of course of course but if you you know everybody thinks he’s like some big bad rock star in in a band you know he’s not anything like that he doesn’t he’s been sober for like two years are you
Surprised that you have been in such a serious relationship for a long time at your age i mean i take our relationship really seriously but honestly we really we spend time together and we try to spend as much time together as possible because we want to but we’re always apart there might be a rumor about you guys getting engaged is that true i’m just wondering because i i need to know that ryan you’re so funny though no have you guys thought about a serious future you’re just living in the moment in typical 2000’s relationship fashion
Hillary and joel dub jewelry would go on what is essentially a media tour promoting their relationship they were even intertwining their businesses as joel and his twin brother benji madden were working alongside hillary on her next album dignity hillary was still 17 and landed the cover of the magazine 17 where she would spill the quote truth about her and joel madden hillary and joel even landed the cover of people magazine with an exclusive photo shoot hey i’m joel i’m hillary and you’re watching tv.
Com hey i’m joel hi i’m hillary you’re watching teenpeople.com quiet down we’re rolling ready and action hey i’m joel i’m hillary and you’re watching teenpeople.com we give each other we we will like tell each other though like we’re really honest yeah um he’ll tell me if like i did something too crazy or like if you you will he’ll be like that’s he’s like you could wear it you look good he’s like it’s a little weird for me though i can’t i’m like same way though but i tell him we like fashion together it’s like something we share but joel’s not
Like the type of person that i think a lot of people think he is because he’s like in a band you know right yeah i’m like come on yeah i’m not scared of you well i don’t understand that because i’m just like what did i ask you the other day when you’re at the atm she oh she asked me i guess i went to the atm or something and like a lady kind of like was like you know backed away or something she’s like what is that like when you walk up to an atm or you go somewhere and someone like kind of like scoots away because they’re
Nervous or something i’m like i don’t really i never notice it until she notices it for me and she’s like because like you scared that person yeah and i have no idea but it because i don’t think it like that i’m just the most normal low-key yes like sit at home watch tv and like you know she’s kind of made me a little more social like come on come out and hang out with my friends and stuff and i’m like okay you know but i think people would think it was the opposite way around here right come on let’s get on a motorcycle and ride into
The sunset to a raging party he’s always one of the questions put your signals on yeah i’m like put on your seatbelt in the joint people cover they spoke on the age difference hillary’s saying despite the eight-year age gap that joel could act like a teenager at times and joel said he knew the public would have their opinions but he only cares about what his mom thinks but he also let it slip that if he had had a daughter hillary’s age he would not let her date a man his age [music] [applause] these tops and we call them tops
[laughter] how you doing i’m pretty good how are you guys oh great you got a big birthday coming up don’t to the end of the summer i do yes what is it the 18 18 hillary [applause] does it just happen like on that day like instantaneously well suddenly you can vote which is exciting but not for another like three years oh that’s true from her yeah i became 18 in an election year so it was very exciting for me it was a big deal so how are you going to celebrate your birthday have you thought about it at all uh i don’t know i’ve been traveling
All over so i think tour are you coming on tour i’m going on now i see in the in the 17 magazine that they got they’ve got the article on who you’re dating is he a rocker from the from the group good charm joel madden i heard that was your favorite band it is i love i love uh good charlotte i love good shirts [applause] how did you meet this guy um i met him through a mutual friend was it a blind date no were they thrust together by this mutual friend so you liked it man um maybe i thought he was pretty cute yeah he is
Cute are you afraid that if you talk about him yeah a little bit now you and your sister are going to be starring in a new film huh yeah material girls oh wow here comes the system too full of duff girls are everywhere you had a lot later on the show earlier this week we talked about the movie the whole premise kind of cute you know you play your door just kind of like that i mean you know it’s very it’s very extremely cute thick just like totally you’re just like your boyfriend and you and your sister and your mother all right and she’s a
Single lady and you’re kind of worried about her and concerned and so you dream of this imaginary secret admirer for her yes and he gives you tips on what would be what would make the perfect boyfriend yes right so uh she didn’t tell us how it ended but i’m kind of hoping they get together i am too although he’s your uncle no my uncle no he plays my best friend’s uncle that owns a restaurant and i get all this advice from him and i’m like maybe that’s it that was her uncle that would make them brother and sister and
That would be a little creepy that would be a movie with a different kind of rating exactly that’s just what i thought about yes actress and as of yesterday an adult hillary duff celebrated her 18th birthday in hollywood and we were there for all the fun big 1-8 it’s so exciting my sister’s 18 and i can’t believe it it was a family affair at hillary duff’s 18th birthday party at hot spot mood in los angeles not only was her sister haley there but main man joel madden’s brother showed up too joel’s twin benji played dj while
Hayley came to grips with being the older sister it like makes me feel old because she’s my little sister i’m like she’s not supposed to be 18 yet okay chill out haley you’re only 20. So let’s talk presents what do you give an 18 year old multi-millionaire i got her this really amazing like it’s like a celtic cross and it’s a big chanel necklace that’s beautiful and um there was only two that came into the us what did her musician boyfriend get her a lot of a lot of things i got a good birthday from joe yeah i got a really great like
Louis jewelry case that’s like um it was really beautiful hillary arrived to her party on joel’s arm looking very grown up in a red stella mccartney dress around her neck an evil eye necklace perhaps to ward off any uninvited guests so um anything special you did for for your girl i mean it’s a big it’s a big birthday to remember oh i like through a little surprise party i brought her home and i had like a cake and balloons it was just me and her i like sang her happy birthday like you know gave her all her presents and stuff
It’s tough to buy something for someone who has everything okay now yeah john wait a minute is this just me or does joel look like he’s 47 years old okay maybe it’s just me maybe we got one more story though okay still hillary hillary related news yeah i can’t believe this uh how long ago did you have your birthday um it was in september so it’s the 28th oh my god and you turned you’re my team but it is you’ve been in show business a long time haven’t you um since i was like seven six or seven yeah that’s when
I really started so it’s 11 years for god’s sake but it’s it’s gone by so fast it doesn’t see i feel old like i feel older than 18. But yeah yeah uh let me ask you a question do you you can’t at the the drinking age is 21 so you don’t drink you’re 21. So what do you do just watch people drink when you go in there exactly so you would like the designated driver um we actually had a driver that night but um yeah i guess i am the designated driver many nights well good for you my boyfriend actually doesn’t drink now
This is the third time you’ve referenced your boyfriend should we shall we show people that you just happen to be asking questions that involves him okay i got a picture of you and your boyfriend here oh wow [applause] honest to god why are they applauding why do you think they’re applauding there i don’t know it was very silent for a while i got really nervous actually my stuff no i knew i think a lot of people were concerned for you really [applause] but he but the guy’s all right isn’t he yes he’s in good charlotte is that who he is
Yeah yeah and how long have you known him um for like two years so how did you meet through a mutual friend and does he have more tattoos than just that arm yeah yes wow like everywhere huh i don’t know i know the other arm nice hi hilary um good charlotte i’ve got a huge punk rock following um has joel have any of joel’s fans ever given you a hard time yes actually um it’s cool you know when i see a lot of people show up places where i’m showing up they’ll have like made sweatshirts on or like wristbands with the brass knuckles or you know good
Charlotte stuff on which is cool because i feel like oh they like me too which is good so a lot of them i think like me but a lot of them like once i was at a show and some girls threw like two pennies at me and i was like what are you crazy yeah it was crazy but like you have to just accept the fact that if you’re gonna be with someone that’s in the same business you’re in you know there’s guys that have said something to him or like you know you just kind of deal with it and laugh it off but well that’s good as
Soon as you’re both happy that is the main thing uh now you’re such a lovely person hillary the times i’ve met you always strike me as being very sweet and loving and caring and blonde and young jewelry would go strong for one more year but in the end of 2006 hillary would enter almost three-year-long relationship with joel madden hillary said the split was amicable and they were on speaking terms however just a few short weeks after the end of the predatory relationship joel was already showing off his new relationship with
Nicole richie very publicly you’ve written a song about um supposed to be about nikon rich and your ex i know you know i got an email on my blackberry about that is that not true it’s not true i wrote i wrote all the songs you know before i even knew i was in bulgaria filming a movie and so i found out that my ex-boyfriend was had a new girlfriend really really soon after we broke up like that two weeks after they had already been like out and doing this so i was like out of the loop so you should have done a whole album on it
And really given them no no and the songs aren’t about about that there’s a song on it called dignity that’s it’s called where’s your dignity and it’s about just kind of living in l.a and how so many people there don’t really care to have it have dignity and and they just treat people with no regard and you know if you have the hottest handbag you’re like it’s the coolest news and it’s such a war going on nicole’s first task is to get four-year-old miranda dressed and ready for his school picture but first she
Wants to clarify a few things with that so what look were you thinking for her school picture like courtney lovish uh no maybe more like uh marilyn manson hillary duff i was going for like teenage hillary duck or hillary duff right after she got out of bed with joel madden hillary was embarking on her pr tour for her new album dignity which was to release in march of 2007 and of course the question on every late night talk show host mine was if the album was about joel madden so and the are there a lot of songs about the the
Breakup with joel is that uh is the cd dealing with that a lot or was that after the cd was was completed you know people they want to know people want to know i mean yeah of course there’s there’s there’s songs about the breakup you know but there’s also songs that are about being in a really happy relationship so it’s kind of it it has a lot in it for everyone how about that deals with a lot of different emotions and whatever how about that sure you whatever whatever you want so it’s it’s it’s about being in a
Relationship and being happy and then afterwards dealing with the after math of that yes i mean there’s other there’s other other subject matters on different songs but there definitely is a lot about that right so now you’re single and uh are you dating i’m not dating how come i think i’m a bad dater dating is it’s hard isn’t it it’s really hard just i mean it’s so awkward you know like i don’t where am i gonna meet somebody like uh here what do you want what are you looking for because i i’m good at finding love
You know what i’m actually the last thing like i was in such a long relationship the last thing i want right now is to be and like jump into another one it’s nice just to find the confidence you know and want to really open yourself up and let people know what you’re feeling or going through or who you are you know and lash out at ex-boyfriends as well that’s right um some of the lyrics let me just read if you don’t mind i can’t get your attention i’m so sick of it i’ve got something to say to you so shut up and listen who’s that
Directed at you know what that’s it’s so funny that you picked that song because that’s called outside of you and it’s the only song in my record that i didn’t write oh really yeah well yeah who did the guy who wrote it who was he thinking of when you know what actually actually uh maybe he was talking to you it’s a dangerous thing note again in one of these lyric kind of battles with someone else who’s also in the band you don’t you know it maybe not do you ever think like oh maybe i shouldn’t put this in there or maybe this is a little much
It’s it’s scary like i said before just because i’m used to kind of closing myself off and not wanting everybody to know everything about me and with this record you know it’s really personal and and so much of it is you know about my family or i did make the record half in a relationship with someone then have not which covers a lot of emotions yeah and um you don’t want to wind up getting in a feud because like look what happened to biggie and tupac for instance that’s right how weird was that to read about when you
Released your album and everybody’s like oh this song’s about like joel and this song’s about this person was that weird for you yeah it’s weird yeah that’s awkward you know i was like oh god he’s gonna read that think i’m like i hate his girlfriend or something and you’re like i don’t care no i don’t yeah and and also like i just want him to be happy you know i care about him i want him to be happy and i do but like there’s a song in my record that’s called you know and the song is about my parents and like something that my
Family went through that was very personal this year that was hard you know and the song is done in like a really fun way um so you can’t tell how serious it is but it is and people were saying it was about her and when i when they were together like my record was finished yeah i’m like that doesn’t make sense hillary it’s not fair sometimes they put you up against people and i don’t want that i don’t want that like negativity and i worked out of my record like i don’t want people misinterpreting it to make a good
Story you know did you ever doubt the lyrics when you’re writing them down yes yes you know there’s songs about of course everyone talks about like the breakup songs because they think that’s the most interesting thing to talk about there’s a song about um me needing to like work on myself it’s a song about being interested in this older man like it’s all it’s all over the place just like every feeling i had within making this record and um and it’s just weird that they want to point out the negative things first
People always focus on the negative but you have to be positive right not long after the release of hillary’s album joel and nicole richie would be in the spotlight and the talk of every major magazine but there was something new in her life a new boyfriend joel madden confounding mix of rocker bible reader tattoos of jesus on his arm he had to choose whether to stay and refuse to be an enabler of anyone’s addiction it would be no question because i don’t have time for that you know and at this stage in my life so what did you say to
Yourself i said to myself well you can walk away now and it’s a great time to walk away because you can you have a reason you could say nicole it’s been great but you know this freaked me out um or you could go with your gut and you know my gut with nicole has always been she’s a great she’s a great woman so you decided to bet on her yeah i bet on her yeah exactly and that’s what i did and i won as you’ll hear in a moment together they would decide to change her life and her plea and there was another reason are you pregnant
Yes i am we are and how far along i’m almost four months she found out with home tests five of them it took me it really took me a long time to really sink in i actually didn’t even really believe it until i heard the heartbeat yeah so you go into the courthouse together on friday yes you knew jail would be coming it was this change of play four days four days is four days in jail too little um that’s not really up to me i got the same sentence that anybody else gets on a second time dui afraid afraid of the unknown
Not really afraid of jail like it’s something that i can’t handle now she’s doing what she has to do you know she’s she’s paying her debt to you know she she did something and now she’s got a answer for it and that’s what she’s doing and if i could personally apologize to every single person that has lost a loved one from drunk driving i would i never took it seriously before and as horrible as that sounds i owe the baby my life hillary and joel would be spotted together one last time in 2009 a couple years after their breakup in a new york
City restaurant their reps said they were still friendly and were just catching up they wouldn’t be until 2015 where hillary would really open up more about her relationship to joel in an interview with cosmopolitan magazine and hillary was inappropriately asked about her sex life and virginity referencing joel she stated that when she was a teen she had a 26 year old boyfriend so you can make assumptions about what they were up to she opened up further that her relationship with joel was all-consuming and very serious at such a
Young age stating that the breakup wrecked her for a good year and a half this sparked articles to come out questioning why we were so okay with this relationship in the early 2000s is it because hillary was regularly treated as an adult even though she was actually a child i’m 15 years old and i think people look at me and think that i’m more mature older than i am do you miss being a 15 year old of course i miss it i miss you know when all my friends are going out and i’m like oh i’m working i can’t if a 25
Year old joel madden had attempted to date a 16 year old hilary duff in today’s world the general public with hopefully the correct law enforcement would have labeled joel as a predator and hillary duff as his victim while hollywood often defends predatory relationships and attempts to sweep them under the rug one thing remains unchanged california’s age of consent the early 2000s were filled with feuds ranging from paris versus everyone to joel madden and the statutory law but one feud would outlast them all hayley
Duff had bared the brunt of many many feuds but she still had one more to take and it had to do with a pre-famous kimberly kardashian haley messaged kim saying hey kimberly so i’m really tired of all this bad blood between us the only reason we even know each other is because of paris and of course she tries to stir things up because she doesn’t like me and wants you to be on her side i’m not writing this message to slam her though anyway i just wanted to say sorry for whatever i’ve said about you i know there’s been
A lot of miscommunications and stuff and i think you’re a really nice girl and that we could end up being good friends we should go out in cosmos together sometime if you ever feel like it sell me you can get the number from adam peace and love haley kim replied saying um thanks for the message i’m glad you want to be friends i’m really tired of all this and drama i’m a grown woman and i’ve been feeling like a little kid again i know i shouldn’t have called you a stupid it was mean but i just did it because paris told me to i
Was desperate for attention but i finally ditched her and i’m becoming my own person anyway would you want to go see am spin at ladoo next week he’ll be right back soon she ended it by saying don’t listen to paris she’s a stupid lesbian [music] now haley replied saying i know the drama has gotten really out of hand i’m a grown woman and i can’t stand it i just want it to be gone this isn’t high school and i forgive you for calling me that anyway i’d love to see a.
M spin what time xoxo haley then kim replied saying yeah um i forgot i don’t hang out with horses plus i’m busy now haley posted these screenshots on myspace and wrote this is why you should never move to hollywood this place is full of arrogant immature and offensive who can’t hold their liquor and can’t keep their legs closed on that note the early 2000s were a wild wild west for pop culture from fights between pop stars and actresses over teen heartthrobs to predatory relationships right in the public eye one thing’s for
Certain there’s many more stories to be told [music] just give it up [music] oh [music] you recently went on a double date with
Your husband and your ex-boyfriend joel madden yeah is it important to you to stay friends with your exes no i do enjoy being friends with him now 100 but i don’t need to be friends with all my exes this is very situational that’s true [music] it’s such a beautiful night oh i was about to do that for my wedding day i’m so happy to have nicole here with me on my big day
We’ve been friends since we’re two years old i love her so much and it just means so much to me that she’s here so far
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