Well, let’s start with the house, because we’re here and it’s so beautiful. It’s a big house for a single man. What’s the dream? What’s the vision? >> Uh the vision for me, once again, it’s a six-bedroom house, right? So, the vision is to fill those bedrooms up with uh with with with kids, right? A big family.
Maybe not six kids, that’s that’s a bit much. Uh but essentially just to start a family in this house. Um it’s a perfect family home. I love it. It has so much to offer. You got the waterfront, you got the pool. And I can really see myself starting a family in here. And I can’t wait just to put a dining room table over there and sitting down with the family every night having dinner.
Um and yeah, I just I’m so looking forward to that one day. >> So, I hear you’re looking for a tradwife. >> Yeah, a traditional partner. Yeah. >> What is the ideal partner for you? >> I think the ideal partner for me would be I’ll list some of the key attributes I look for. So, for me, it would be someone with good communication, um mutual respect for one another, kindness, um I guess the same sort of vision.
So, I I want to start a family, right? So, I want a partner that’s family-orientated, and also a Christian as well. >> What sort of household were you raised in? >> I was raised in a traditional household. So, my mom stayed at home, and my dad was out providing um financially for our family.
And I have such great memories as a child. My mom was and still is a beautiful person, a beautiful mom. Um and yeah, like it was just a it was a great time, and I just don’t see anything wrong within 2026 to to want a traditional partner. >> Why do you think it is so controversial to support traditional gender roles? >> I think in this day and age, 2026, the cost of living is so high.
So, I think now it takes two parties to go out and work and provide for a family. Whereas 30 years ago, we didn’t have that, you know, the the the wife in the relationship had the opportunity to be able to stay at home and and raise the kids and and whatnot. So, I feel like we’ve lost that nowadays due to the cost of living, and I also do think that social media and technology have also complicated things in regards to traditional values and and traditional relationships because the way I see it, and I’ve seen this before with with other relationships,
not my personally, but with with other people, there’s so many options out there. So, like if someone doesn’t like if you have an argument with your partner or whatever, you can just be like, “Oh, I’m just going to go and there’s so many other options on there. I’m just going to get on Tinder and find another partner.
” >> Ah, so you think it’s almost too easy for people to >> Yeah. >> leave a leave a relationship. >> Exactly, yeah. Yeah. So, I think to answer your question, I think technology, these dating apps, and also the cost of living do play a major role um in traditional relationships essentially not working. >> Your mission to find love led you to reality television.
You were public enemy number one for a while there. >> I was. I was. That was a very opening experience. Um I’ve learned a lot from that experience, actually. And I do take accountability for some of the things I said. I did use the word submissive. Um the producers did say I was going to be the most controversial character they’ve ever had on the show, and I happily took that role.
Um if I could change my time again, I would have definitely used different words. So, submissive was the wrong word to use. I look back and reflect on that and say, “Not the best choice of words there.” Traditional is the word I was looking for, and the traditional was the word I wanted to use, but I guess if I use that word, it wouldn’t have created much controversy.
I probably still would have, but not as much as the word submissive. >> So, to be clear then, are you looking for a woman to to serve and obey you? >> I’m not looking for for a dog. I’m not looking to put my wife on a leash at all. I think it comes down to choices. Um I’d like to give my partner after we have kids the choice to to go out and work or even just to stay at home.
I think it’s really important for the mother of my children to to to stay at home for as long as she likes to be able to bond with my children, or our children I should say. And if she wants to go back to work, I’ll support that. And if she doesn’t want to go back to work and wants to stay here and look after the household whilst I’m out providing, I honestly don’t see a problem with that.
>> So, let’s look at the other model to play devil’s advocate. If you [clears throat] met a gorgeous, really ambitious, you know, successful, independent career woman, >> Yeah. >> would that be attractive to you? >> Um yeah, it would be attractive to me. It would be attractive. The main thing here is so I’ll say this, it’s all about choice.
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So, between now and when I do start a family with with my partner, um I’m all for her working. I think she should be out there working, socializing, doing her thing. That’s great. But, the main thing is when I do start a family with my partner, I believe that she should have the opportunity not to be not to have to focus on making money and worrying about finances because I feel like the first couple of years um of looking after the those babies, those those little children is paramount.
The mother needs [snorts] to bond with her children and she shouldn’t need to worry about finances. But, after those few years, if she wants to go back to work, I’m I’m all for that. >> And what if she did want to continue making money and and building her career? >> I’d be for that. I’d be for that. But, once again, I do want the mother of my children, um well, be in an ideal setting, the mother of my children to be able to stay at home for at least a couple years um to be able to to look after and bond with with our kids.
>> What are you worried about? >> Someone I was worried about a mass. This is This is one of the things I was worried about with with my previous marriage, if you want to call it that, was with with her, I I believe that she wanted me to stay at home and look after the kids and, you know, give up what I’m doing to support her.
But, in a relationship, it takes two to tango. We both got to support each other. So, for me, I don’t want to be a house husband. Sure, we can both go out, provide, and and do our thing, but I do believe that once my the mother of my children gives birth, I do feel like it’s super important to be able to stay home and bond with those kids.
And there’s nothing more important. We can make money all day, that’s great, but what comes first is is family and and the children. I believe that’s paramount. >> What do you not want? >> I don’t want to be challenged, you know? I think that if I was to go out with someone, some CEO, that was making lots of money, which which would be nice, right? You know, we all we all want more money, but I feel like to an extent there might be challenges there.
She might be trying to challenge me when I get home, you know, why aren’t you making as much as me? Why aren’t you doing this? Why aren’t you doing that? So, I guess just at the end of the day to come home to a loving house. Um and obviously just to make sure that the both parties are happy. That’s why I think emotional intelligence is important as well.
Um so, I think the main main thing that dating someone or or marrying someone that is a CEO of a major company would be the challenges that go with it. >> And when you say challenged, I mean, would you find a woman who challenges you is that intimidating? Is that emasculating? >> Um I wouldn’t say it’s intimidating per se.
I just more like mean like challenged to the point where it can cause like conflict. >> Within the household? >> Within the household, yeah. >> Challenging your your ideas or your >> Um mainly probably financially. I’d say if she’s a CEO and she’s making bulk coin, I’d say to an extent she’d be trying to challenge me financially. I’m not too sure.
I mean, I got this house for half, but I just think that that sort of individual would be a very domineering individual. I feel like it could cause issues within within the relationship. Not to Not to say it would, but it could be something. Maybe we could be challenging each other too much, and then all of a sudden we start clashing heads. I’m not too sure.
>> Does that potentially shift the the power dynamic for you? >> Um not really. I don’t think there is a power dynamic within a traditional relationship. Once again, I think it’s it’s mutual respect and communication and working together as a team. That’s what I think is more most important. >> Let’s talk about that.
Do you see men and women as equal? >> I do see men and women as equal, for sure. >> How does your ideal [clears throat] household run? >> Yeah, so um let’s just say I’ve I’ve we’ve started a family, right? Me and my partner, she’s just had the first baby. I see myself as the provider and protector, so I’m out there making money to provide for my family cuz once again, I don’t want my partner to have to worry about finances.
Certainly when she just gave birth, that should be the last thing on her mind. So, for me personally, it would be me being the provider and protector for the family and her being a good mother to to my to my children. That can that can look like a number of of of things. It can be things such as, you know, breastfeeding and >> [snorts] >> taking the child to the park or um doing some fishing or just whatever it may be, just bonding with that child.
Those motherly instincts. That’s what I think her role should be after she, you know, gives birth. >> Are you looking for someone to cook and clean and and run the house? >> Um So, once again, like I don’t expect like I don’t expect her to chain her up in the kitchen and say, “Make me a sandwich.
” Like it’s it’s not about that at all. But, you know, if I am out working, if I’m out doing my thing, and she wants to stay here, it’s a choice. If she wants to stay here and cook and clean and look after the children and go out and fish and use the pool, whatever, I’m all for that. And I just want to make it clear as well that for myself, I want her to actually have time for herself.
So, I’m also going to be looking after the kids when I get free time so that she can go to the gym and she can socialize with her friends um because I feel like it’s important we all need our own time as well. So, she’s not just going to be locked up in here all day. It’s it’s nothing like that. >> For so long there’s been a push [clears throat] by women for women >> Yeah.
>> to break glass ceilings, get out of the kitchen, have equal opportunity. Why do you think the pendulum has swung back the other way? >> Towards traditional relationships? >> Um, because I feel like in this day and age, you know, the the cost of living, um, social media, I feel like these play major roles in, you know, traditional values and relationships.
I think that to an extent that women would probably prefer, some women, I’m not speaking on behalf of all women here or anything, it’s just my opinion. I think a lot of women would prefer, rather than going out and working, and use that money to put towards child care, they’d probably rather stay at home, look after the kids, and have their partner provide for them.
>> Mhm. Is that an opinion you formed through, you know, family and and people you know, and people you talk to >> Yeah, I’ve spoken to a lot of people about this whole traditional relationship, um, topic. And a lot of, like my sister, my mom, some of my my friends from the gym, who are who are female, said the exact same thing.
Given the opportunity to I given the opportunity, they’d like to actually stay home and look after their children, not have to worry about finances. >> [snorts] >> You see so many, um, traditional, you know, tradwife content has really [clears throat] gone viral. >> I know. >> Online, it’s everywhere. >> I know.
I know. So, I do think it is becoming more popular, but there is that mis- conception where like, for myself, people think I’m a misogynist, just because I said I want a traditional partner. A misogynist is a person that hates women, when I don’t hate women at all. I I love women. Um, so, that’s why I just want to make this clear.
It’s all about choice, it’s all about working with your partner, um, and communication as well. You need to be able to talk about these things with your partner, and if your partner doesn’t want to do something, then you need to come up with a strategy to combat that. >> Do you support feminism? >> I personally don’t support feminism.
I support equal opportunities for for both women, um, and and males, right? We’re equals here. But, I don’t necessarily, uh, support feminism as a whole. >> Yeah, I mean, when you think of feminism, what springs to your mind? Cuz I guess it is um equality, equal pay, you know, workplace equality, pay equality, all of those things.
What do What do you think of when you think of feminism? >> Um I think of those I think of the women in the streets, you know, with the green and blue hair, you know, protesting saying, you know, we’re better than men. I I I think a lot of these feminists hate men. They think they’re better than men. Um when in fact, we’re all equals at the end of the day.
There’s probably some jobs, that’s just my personal opinion, some jobs that are more suited for men opposed to women, but that doesn’t mean we’re not equals. >> What jobs would those be? >> Um I’d say more more hands-on sort of jobs like whether it be construction. I’m sure there’s a lot of good construction women out there, but I’d say more hands-on type jobs that require heavy lifting, um those sorts of jobs where I think it may be more suited for for a man.
>> You’ve been looking for love for quite a while now. >> Yeah. >> How hard is it to find a woman these days? >> I think dating in 2026 is extremely difficult. Um I think a lot of it has to do with social media and the dating apps as well, cuz there’s just so many options out there. Um but also for me, you know, I’m after a traditional partner, and I think a lot of younger women nowadays in their 20s and 30s try to steer away from the traditional side of things.
I think they just to an extent probably want to go out and work and do whatever they want to do and maybe don’t want to settle down. Um that’s the vibe I’m getting nowadays with dating. It It is It is very difficult and challenging. >> So, are women more selective or are men is it an equal playing field? >> I think for women women are more selective than men because they they get given so many options.
I mean, you go on a Tinder and, you know, women are getting hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of likes, whereas the average guy out there might get one like every every week if he’s if he’s lucky. Um and it’s true. It’s true. Um that’s just the dynamics of of of mother nature. That’s how it works. And um yeah, women have a lot more options compared to men.
>> So, what are you offering a partner? >> I’m offering loyalty. I’m offering trust. Um I’m offering uh faithfulness. I guess it’s the same thing as loyalty. But um and I’m offering uh emotional support. Support 24/7. I think support is a big one. That is so important within a relationship.
Um and I’m offering financial support as well for my partner. Like I said, when we do start a family, um I think it’s paramount that we do have that financial support while that I’m giving her that financial support. >> The women who are living these lives are receiving a lot of hate and a lot of criticism. >> Yeah. >> And they’ve told us it’s come mainly from feminists.
You know, criticism to the tune of he’ll leave you, he’ll cheat on you, you know, you’ve got to have your own money. Like what is it about that lifestyle, do you think, that is causing so much hate? >> I find it hard to put into words, really, cuz I don’t see the problem in it. So, I don’t understand what goes through a feminist’s mind.
I’m not a feminist myself, so I’m I’m not too sure what goes through their mind, but I think maybe it has something to do with the the woman basically I don’t know if obeying is the right word, but morally supporting their husband and staying home and, you know, maybe not working and doing those things around the house.
I feel like a lot of these feminine feminists, you know, they want the woman out there working and providing for themselves. And so, I think it comes down to a power dynamic, I believe. But I’m not too sure. I also think as well with these feminists, like I said earlier, that they do they do hate men and they don’t like men and I don’t think they I think that they think that we’re not equals to an extent.
I think they might even think they’re more superior than men. I’m not 100% sure but I’m not too sure what goes through the mind of a feminist. >> Well, I can tell you what goes through the mind of a feminist. >> Yeah. >> Women have fought so hard and for so long >> Mhm. >> to get equality outside of these household roles.
And I think that role of the male breadwinner and the woman homemaker to many represents oppression. >> I respectfully disagree. I think it’s got nothing to do with oppression. At least my terminology behind it because like I said, it’s all about choice. It’s not about oppression to me, it’s all about choice.
I support my partner in anything she wants to do as long as it’s not on OnlyFans. That’s one thing I’ll I’ll never support. But once again, if my partner wants to work, I’m all for it. >> Yeah. >> There’s [clears throat] there’s no issue there. I’ve got nothing. All that I’m saying is that when we start a family, the first couple years, I think it’s it’s paramount for for the mother to be able to bond with the with the children and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Then after that, sure, go to work. If you want to start a business, start a business. I’ll support you 100%. I’m I’m all for it. But at the end of the day, um I don’t think it’s oppression. I really don’t. >> Yeah. What do you think’s happened to feminism? >> In what regard? >> Well, you know, it was for so long um so many positive changes and then for you to sit here and say you think feminists hate men where does that come from? What what what what evidence are you basing that on? >> Yeah, it’s just from the things I’ve
seen um personally, like on social media. Now, I don’t know where all the hate’s come from. Maybe it’s due to you said earlier, oppression. Maybe they think that to an extent oppression is being brought into this topic but I really don’t think oppression is a thing within today’s society.
Maybe it is a little bit, but at the end of day I feel like women have come so far. Like we’re all equals. A lot of women are working nowadays as as we’re well aware. It’s very different to how it was 30 years ago like in the 1990s. Um but I think given the choice, if if the cost of living crisis wasn’t actually a thing, I think a lot of women would probably stay home and and want to look after the kids.
>> You think they don’t have as much ambition or >> I don’t think it has anything to do with ambition. I just think it’s just a motherly role. I think if I was a female and if I had kids, my whole my everyday life would be devoted to my children. And I I couldn’t live anything better than waking up every morning saying, “Kids, let’s go for a swim in the pool.
Let’s cook up some pancakes today. Let’s let’s do some fishing out the back.” I think that’d be absolutely great. >> We have reached a point though, I think in 2026 where women can do both. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> have your kids, you have a big job. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I like I said, it all comes down to choice.
And if you can make it work, then go for it. If my partner wants to work, then she can work. But once again, whilst that child is, you know, the first year or two, I think it’s so important to be able to bond with that child. Especially with the breastfeeding and that’s when, you know, it really creates a bond, right? With with your child when you when you’re breastfeeding um that baby.
>> Have you had many women reach out, respond to your call for a traditional >> I >> wife? >> I’ve I’ve had a lot of women reach out and message me on Instagram. Um I don’t really check my DMs too much on Insta cuz it’s just mixed. There’s just there’s a lot of positives, there’s a lot of negative comments. Um and I don’t really use social media that much entirely.
Um but I actually have had a lot of women uh message out uh message me and reach out and say that they um are after a traditional partner. Um which is nice to see cuz I didn’t think I’d get much of that, but I’m actually getting quite a lot of it. So, it is nice to see that some people can understand where I’m trying to come from.
I might not be the best with explaining things. I’ll admit that. I’m trying my best here. But, um you know, at the end of the day, um that’s just what I feel. And that’s how I’m I’m very black and white with the way I say things. >> What’s been some of the positive feedback that you’ve had? >> Um some of the positive feedback, like I said, were with the DMs and messages I’ve got from uh women that that support me, saying that they want a traditional partner, saying that they can, you know, they understand where I’m coming from.
So, that was that was really great in that regard. Um and I guess just creating awareness awareness on the topic of this whole traditional relationship controversy. It’s got people talking, and I think we need to talk about it. It is 2026. I know, you know, things have changed, right, since the ’90s and ’80s and ’70s.
But, it’s a very interesting topic of conversation to talk about. And I do feel as if the traditional roles, to an extent, are kind of coming back. >> Why do you think that is? >> I think it’s cuz of family. I think people want to be closer with with their kids and with their families. No one wants to have a child and just put that child to daycare all day and work.
Um some people might, and that’s okay. >> And some people have to. >> Some people have to, as well, because they don’t have the financial luxury to be able to stay at home and look after the kids. Um and for me personally, once again, that’s why I I want my partner to have choices. >> Were you surprised by the controversy? >> I was very surprised with the controversy.
But, to be fair, to be fair, I did watch myself on TV and say, “Oof, I shouldn’t have said that. I shouldn’t have said this.” But, you know, it’s a learning experience. And and for me, once again, I do take accountability for some of the things I said. I’m not a misogynist. Submissive was the wrong word to use. Um and look, all I can do I can’t go back in time in a time machine and change what I what I said.
But, all I can do is come on here and talk about how I feel and and what I believe um a traditional relationship looks like. >> What were some of the responses that really got to you? >> Yeah, some of the look I’ve got very thick skin, but some of the responses were just too far, you know, like they some people saying, “Look at the evil in his eyes.
Like, this guy’s like a Ted Bundy.” And just saying I’m the just outrageous things, you know, saying that I’ve got domestic violence charges against me. Like, where where’s the proof of that? That’s absolutely ridiculous. People saying they’re going to burn my house down. >> So, you had death threats? >> multiple death threats.
Multiple death threats. Um and the people sending these death threats as well were very strange-looking individuals. Look like they can I don’t know. They’re just weird. I’ve looked on their profile and I’m like, “Geez, that’s a weird-looking person.” But, um you know, I take it with a grain of salt. Um I can handle myself, and a lot of these people are just trolls at the end of the day.
>> Why do you think you triggered so many people? >> I think for me just using those keywords like submissive, obviously using the word feminist uh feminist like I did use, feminine, masculine, using those those keywords because I know nowadays these are very controversial words to use.
And I use those words with confidence. And um unfortunately, it did create a lot of controversy. And um I didn’t get much I don’t think people like me too much after saying those saying those things. >> Let’s talk [snorts] about that cuz um I know with one of the families we filmed with, they talk about um the strength and the softness, the feminine and the masculine um kind of roles and dynamic that they have and how that really works for their traditional household.
>> Yeah, feminine energy. So, that actually got used on on Married at First Sight as well. >> [clears throat] >> I’ve got a lot of actually a lot of heat for using that word or those two words. I guess feminine energy to me would be um a partner that is there to to obviously support you. A partner that, you know, is sweet that that does nice things for you.
Like, wants to, you know, maybe every once in a while cook a meal. That’s two-way street though, you know, like I want to cook for my partner as well. But essentially just a sweet, loving partner. Um and look, I’ve had partners in the past that that weren’t like that. They were very career-orientated, and I was the one cooking dinner, and I was the one cleaning the house.
Like I was just doing everything. Um whereas like I feel like it just it wasn’t really a two-way street, if that makes sense. >> Yeah. >> Um whereas with all masculine energy side of things, I think if you bring masculine energy and feminine energy, that goes well together, right? But if you bring masculine energy masculine energy, and that comes together, I feel like that can cause conflict, right? Cuz it’s almost like two people challenging challenging each other 24/7.
And I’ve said this on on the show, and none of this got got to air. >> Yeah. >> I remember Steph said, um he hates being challenged. Well, why would I want to come home and be challenged by my partner after I’ve just worked all day? I want to Shouldn’t Shouldn’t I come home and say, “Oh, babe, it’s great to see you. Give me a hug and a kiss.
” Like I don’t want to be challenged. Who wants to come home and be challenged? >> Well, but by challenged, I mean, you know, someone could disagree with you, have a difference of opinion, or you know, say something that you don’t particularly like. >> Yeah. Well, that’s what the And once again, we’re all entitled to our opinions.
So I agree. But the way that she sort of said it was like, you know, “I hate to be challenged.” In the sense that like every little thing is going to challenge me. Not necessarily. I just don’t want to come home and get like micromanaged, if you will. >> Okay. Told what to do. >> Mhm. Because I’m not going to tell my partner what to do.
I’m not going to be like, “Babe, go make me a sandwich right now.” Like no. You don’t talk to someone like that. Once again, it all comes down to mutual respect and communication. >> Yeah. >> We need to work as a team. It’s a team effort. >> Do you think there is a lot of pressure on women these days to have it all and do it all? >> Do, as in do it all, do you mean like job-wise or >> And around the house.
>> Around the house? I’d say there probably is. I’d say there is a lot of pressure on women to, you know, keep the the household manageable, if you will. But, once again, it’s not solely just based on the women doing everything around the house. Like, I feel like the man also needs to contribute. Um you know, it’s not my wife cooking for me every single night.
I like to cook for my wife as well. So, once again, it takes two to tango, and I believe that um the man also needs to contribute to the house as well, and needs to support his wife when she needs it. >> Yeah. So, it goes both ways. >> both ways. >> To the haters who are sitting on the couch watching, to people who are sitting at home watching this, and yelling at the TV, saying, you know, women have fought so hard for so long >> Yeah.
>> to break these traditional roles, and get out of the house, and um break glass ceilings, um and your expectations are sending women backwards. >> Well, once again, respectfully um disagree. I think, once again, it has nothing to do with depression or going backwards. If anything, I think these traditional relationships are taking us forwards.
Um because women do have all the equal opportunities that that men do have. I mean, look at women’s sports. You know, you got women playing rugby, and you know, soccer, and there’s equal job opportunities out there for females as well. >> I think we’re still a little way behind on pay and a few other areas, but continue.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um so, yeah. Like, I I personally don’t think women are are far behind at all. Um I think we’re equals at the end of the day. And I know what you’re saying regarding the pay gap, but I think the pay gap is due to men’s sports probably being a little bit more popular, so maybe they’ve got a larger crowd and more funding behind that.
That’s why I think men get paid a little bit more than than women in that regard. Um but overall, yeah, I think we shouldn’t look at it in the sense of oppression and obedience, if you will. I think the way we should look at it is as choice and moving forward and working together. >> Why do you think people find these old-fashioned household roles so offensive? >> I think because some of the lot of feminists probably think this as well, that you know, my my values and my traditional um roles, if you will, within our relationship is
putting my wife on a on a on a leash and just locking her up in that kitchen and getting her to make me a steak or a sandwich and getting her to just clean house and jeez, if you you missed a spot, clean that. Like, it’s not about that. It’s not about that at all. And it’s so frustrating when people people, like I said, call me misogynist and say that, you know, I’m a woman beater and all this, when it’s just not the case.
Um for me, it’s all about, like I said, being equal, but at the same time, giving my partner the choice. Um if she wants to stay at home and cook and clean, I’m not going to argue with that. That’s completely fine. No issues with that. But if she doesn’t, if she wants to go out and work, if she wants to go out and see her friends, go to the gym, I’m all for it as well.
I’ll stay home while she go do that. So, there’s really nothing wrong with wanting a traditional relationship in this in this day and age. I think if you can financially support it, then why not? I think as soon as you bring force into this, as soon as, you know, you say, “Get in the kitchen, put that apron on.
” That’s when that’s when the issues arise. It shouldn’t be about that. It shouldn’t be about that at all. It should be that’s something that my partner wants to do. She wants to be in the kitchen cooking or cleaning. That’s something she wants to do, then great. You do that, babe. That’s fine. But if you don’t want to do that, then that’s fine.
We can we can chat, we can talk about it. If you want to go back to work, we can try to figure things out, whatever. I think the main thing here we need to talk about is communication. That’s I think that’s why a lot of relationships fail in this day and age is a lack of communication. And that’s something I’ve got pride myself on.
I think I’m a good communicator. People probably beg to differ after watching Married at First Sight, but they’ve only seen a very small snippet of an edited TV show, reality TV show. >> So, what does the future look like? >> Yeah, so the future for me, I can literally see the future. It’s like I’ve got a little crystal ball here.
Um but basically living in this big beautiful house with my wife and a couple kids, um and going fishing at the back, using the pool, using the jet skis, traveling a few times a year overseas, um and I’ll tell you what, I’m definitely going to make this vision uh come to fruition. It’s definitely going to happen. Um it’s just a matter of It’s not a matter of if, it’s just a matter of when.
I can’t wait for that day. >> So, she’s out there? >> She’s out there. >> Somewhere. >> Somewhere. [laughter]
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